The IT Pro Podcast: The front line of fraud tech

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Ten years ago, identity fraud typically meant people manually forging, but today’s threat actors work with purely-digital fakes with an increasingly-advanced toolset including ‘deepfakes’ that work even on live video feeds. At the same time, Twitter advertisers have seen billions wiped off their market caps as the platform struggles with its ID verification.

On top of the growing scale of digital fraudsters, a surprising amount of businesses are willing to let a small amount of fraud occur. Companies need to carefully plan how to avoid fraud, but more importantly learn from the experience of falling victim to scams.

This week, we spoke to Mike Tuchen, CEO of identity tech firm Onfido, to discuss the current threat landscape, how the tech sector can match threatening tech with detection systems, and best practice going forward.


“It's currently neck and neck, but to your point, the quality of the deep fakes has gone way up. And so this is going to be an ongoing game of cat and mouse in the coming years, and so it's this combination of synthetic identities and deep fakes. That's really the cutting edge, that we'll see more and more fraudsters use.”

“You can't try to go back and say, "we'll shut down the dark net", that's not going to happen, right? We have to accept that that is out there. And it will always be out there, and so all we can really do is become increasingly sophisticated on the ‘ability to detect and protect’ side, as they're, as they ramp up their capabilities on that side.”

“Because of the so-called ‘blue check’, the verified thing, that was a complete fiasco and I'd say entirely preventable. But we've seen, you know, companies like Eli Lilly and Lockheed Martin get attacked and lose like $15 billion of market cap each. Because Twitter decided not to do, you know, any kind of verification aside from your willingness to pay eight bucks. I don't know if those were caused by people trying to manipulate the stock. But if they were, the trade off of making potentially millions of dollars by spending $8 on getting a blue check, it's a no brainer, right?”

Read the full transcript here.




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